Yeah I would expect that to be something they could challenge/review.
I would think and you would think. I can't find anything on MLB about if you can review foul tip. Other, non-MLB sources say you can't because why would you Manfred, why... would you....?
Anyway, shouldn't matter because what is a foul tip?
Foul Tip
Definition
A foul tip is a batted ball that goes sharply and directly to the catcher's hand or glove and is legally caught.
nothing sharp or direct with how it got to the catcher's glove
"Foul tip" is my mom's nickname for you
Isn't it a little racist to call it Black Friday? - Joy Behar
I would think and you would think. I can't find anything on MLB about if you can review foul tip. Other, non-MLB sources say you can't because why would you Manfred, why... would you....?
Anyway, shouldn't matter because what is a foul tip?
nothing sharp or direct with how it got to the catcher's glove
I was just reading about this as it was being discussed on an umpire group on fb. Here is the point of view from umpires, based on the actual rule (not common sense):
This is a tough but correct call.
Some points people are missing:
1. Yes, this is interference. The fielder has the right of way to field the ball. The onus is on the runner to be aware of the location of the fielder to avoid an interference call.
2. This is still interference even though the fielder caught the ball because the fielder was hindered in their ability to make a play on the ball. Just because the fielder made the catch does not mean the fielder was not hindered getting to that spot.
3. Interference does not need to be an intentional act when hindering a fielder's ability to make a play.
4. Unlike most instances, interference is not an immediate dead ball at the time of interference during an infield fly—by rule—until fair or foul is determined, and fair or foul cannot be ruled upon while the ball is in flight. Therefore, whether interference occurred before or after the infield fly was declared is irrelevant because the infield fly rule still applies on this play.
5. Absent interference, whether or not the fielder catches the ball on an infield fly still matters. While the batter is out and forces are removed either way, runners are still subject to base retouch rules if the ball is caught (and not subject to base touches if the ball is not caught).
6. Even if the call was incorrect (which it was not), a crew chief will not intervene to attempt to overturn another umpire's call, as that action is specifically against the rules. No umpire will seek to overturn another umpire's call; however, another umpire can provide information if asked by a calling umpire.
I was just reading about this as it was being discussed on an umpire group on fb. Here is the point of view from umpires, based on the actual rule (not common sense):
This is a tough but correct call.
Some points people are missing:
1. Yes, this is interference. The fielder has the right of way to field the ball. The onus is on the runner to be aware of the location of the fielder to avoid an interference call.
2. This is still interference even though the fielder caught the ball because the fielder was hindered in their ability to make a play on the ball. Just because the fielder made the catch does not mean the fielder was not hindered getting to that spot.
3. Interference does not need to be an intentional act when hindering a fielder's ability to make a play.
4. Unlike most instances, interference is not an immediate dead ball at the time of interference during an infield fly—by rule—until fair or foul is determined, and fair or foul cannot be ruled upon while the ball is in flight. Therefore, whether interference occurred before or after the infield fly was declared is irrelevant because the infield fly rule still applies on this play.
5. Absent interference, whether or not the fielder catches the ball on an infield fly still matters. While the batter is out and forces are removed either way, runners are still subject to base retouch rules if the ball is caught (and not subject to base touches if the ball is not caught).
6. Even if the call was incorrect (which it was not), a crew chief will not intervene to attempt to overturn another umpire's call, as that action is specifically against the rules. No umpire will seek to overturn another umpire's call; however, another umpire can provide information if asked by a calling umpire.
I was just reading about this as it was being discussed on an umpire group on fb. Here is the point of view from umpires, based on the actual rule (not common sense):
This is a tough but correct call.
Some points people are missing:
1. Yes, this is interference. The fielder has the right of way to field the ball. The onus is on the runner to be aware of the location of the fielder to avoid an interference call.
2. This is still interference even though the fielder caught the ball because the fielder was hindered in their ability to make a play on the ball. Just because the fielder made the catch does not mean the fielder was not hindered getting to that spot.
3. Interference does not need to be an intentional act when hindering a fielder's ability to make a play.
4. Unlike most instances, interference is not an immediate dead ball at the time of interference during an infield fly—by rule—until fair or foul is determined, and fair or foul cannot be ruled upon while the ball is in flight. Therefore, whether interference occurred before or after the infield fly was declared is irrelevant because the infield fly rule still applies on this play.
5. Absent interference, whether or not the fielder catches the ball on an infield fly still matters. While the batter is out and forces are removed either way, runners are still subject to base retouch rules if the ball is caught (and not subject to base touches if the ball is not caught).
6. Even if the call was incorrect (which it was not), a crew chief will not intervene to attempt to overturn another umpire's call, as that action is specifically against the rules. No umpire will seek to overturn another umpire's call; however, another umpire can provide information if asked by a calling umpire.
Interesting explanation and reinforcement that the call was technically correct. They will need a rule change to prevent this from happening again.
Post by Iron Mike Sharpe on Aug 27, 2024 14:03:29 GMT -5
1987, NY. The umpires go out at night drinking. Rookie Jim Joyce gets absolutely shit faced. Crew chief Dave Phillips assign the rest of his team with the responsibility of making sure he gets to the room safely. They don't and Jim Joyce is missing in the AM. Phillips grabs the crew in the AM to go out looking for him. They eventually find him under some cardboard on the sidewalk passed out curled up with a bum.
Batted ball If a fielder throws their glove at a batted ball and makes contact, each runner can advance three bases without being put out.
So, if a ball is going over the wall, and the fielder throws his glove and keeps the ball in play, is that only a triple and not a HR?
Technically, you're referring to the wrong rule. All the related rules are in 5.06(b)(4) (A-E)
The situation you mentioned is covered in (A) and it's a HR. (E) is for a thrown ball.
(4) Each runner including the batter-runner may, without liability to be put out, advance:
(A) To home base, scoring a run, if a fair ball goes out of the playing field in flight and he touched all bases legally; or if a fair ball which, in the umpire’s judgment, would have gone out of the playing field in flight, is deflected by the act of a fielder in throwing his glove, cap, or any article of his apparel;
(B) Three bases, if a fielder deliberately touches a fair ball with his cap, mask or any part of his uniform detached from its proper place on his person. The ball is in play and the batter may advance to home base at his peril;
(C) Three bases, if a fielder deliberately throws his glove at and touches a fair ball. The ball is in play and the batter may advance to home base at his peril;
(D) Two bases, if a fielder deliberately touches a thrown ball with his cap, mask or any part of his uniform detached from its proper place on his person. The ball is in play;
(E) Two bases, if a fielder deliberately throws his glove at and touches a thrown ball. The ball is in play;