I've seen that before, it's pretty enjoyable. Frankly I think the dude being able to get it over the plate from the trampoline is just as impressive as Bonds hitting it out of the park.
This is kind of an arbitrary Simmons-esque cutoff for a stat but I guess if you're going to be included in a group of players, this is good company to be in.
Agreed that Ichiro should and probably will be unanimous. It's pretty ridiculous that there's only been 1, but he seems like a guy that has no knocks against him either on or off the field. One of these assholes probably won't vote for him anyway, but if I have to pick I say he does get 100%.
Without doing any research, I think Sabathia is the only other guy on that list that's likely to get in, and it won't be on his first ballot.
Agreed that Ichiro should and probably will be unanimous. It's pretty ridiculous that there's only been 1, but he seems like a guy that has no knocks against him either on or off the field. One of these assholes probably won't vote for him anyway, but if I have to pick I say he does get 100%.
Without doing any research, I think Sabathia is the only other guy on that list that's likely to get in, and it won't be on his first ballot.
Yeah, I have in my head that Felix might have a weird sabermetrics argument but I don't even know if that's actually true. Sabathia seems fairly borderline to me but I don't know exactly how his statistics fall, either.
Billy Wagner was super close this year, I assume he makes it next year based on how the voting typically goes.
ETA: I'm surprised Carlos Beltran hasn't gotten more support so far.
Agreed that Ichiro should and probably will be unanimous. It's pretty ridiculous that there's only been 1, but he seems like a guy that has no knocks against him either on or off the field. One of these assholes probably won't vote for him anyway, but if I have to pick I say he does get 100%.
Without doing any research, I think Sabathia is the only other guy on that list that's likely to get in, and it won't be on his first ballot.
Yeah, I have in my head that Felix might have a weird sabermetrics argument but I don't even know if that's actually true. Sabathia seems fairly borderline to me but I don't know exactly how his statistics fall, either.
Billy Wagner was super close this year, I assume he makes it next year based on how the voting typically goes.
ETA: I'm surprised Carlos Beltran hasn't gotten more support so far.
beltran got punished for the astros cheating stuff
Yeah, I have in my head that Felix might have a weird sabermetrics argument but I don't even know if that's actually true. Sabathia seems fairly borderline to me but I don't know exactly how his statistics fall, either.
Billy Wagner was super close this year, I assume he makes it next year based on how the voting typically goes.
ETA: I'm surprised Carlos Beltran hasn't gotten more support so far.
beltran got punished for the astros cheating stuff
I was always a big Beltran fan. I bet some of these dickheads are holding the Astros cheating scandal against him. But he was 46% his first year and 57% this year so he'll probably get there. Using some Simmons-esque cutoffs, he's the only guy besides Bonds and A-Rod that had 400 HRs and 300 SBs and isn't in the HOF.
ETA: I see Jim already brought up the cheating while I was typing. I do think he'll get in eventually though.
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Also, Beltran wasn't as good as Andruw Jones and it's still borderline criminal that Ozzie Smith was 1st ballot while Ozzie Smith with 400+ home runs is not after 7 chances
Also, Beltran wasn't as good as Andruw Jones and it's still borderline criminal that Ozzie Smith was 1st ballot while Ozzie Smith with 400+ home runs is not after 7 chances
Al from White Plains. aka The Falfather, was talking yesterday about how much Andruw Jones deserves it, I think he said he's the best CF he's ever seen play? As we know, Al is in his 60s, not some weirdo Braves fan millenial.
I agree wholeheartedly that Jones should be in the HOF. Considering his defensive prowess, his overall resume is probably slightly better than Beltran's but I don't think that's a slam dunk. They both deserve to get in.
I retweeted him last night when he posted this quote as a tweet, I think it's really well said about a wholly unique level of greatness in sports:
Mays wasn’t simply the Greatest Living Ballplayer. He was one of a handful of men who can stake a serious claim as the Greatest Ballplayer Who Ever Lived. And he might have the best claim of them all.
I retweeted him last night when he posted this quote as a tweet, I think it's really well said about a wholly unique level of greatness in sports:
Mays wasn’t simply the Greatest Living Ballplayer. He was one of a handful of men who can stake a serious claim as the Greatest Ballplayer Who Ever Lived. And he might have the best claim of them all.
You could also make the case that he’s not even the greatest ball player in his godfamily.
